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        Contents

[0]. Is there a Reggae Archives on the Internet?
[1]. Dub Recommendations
[2]. Can anyone recommend some books on reggae?
[3]. What is "Dub" music anyway?
[4]. Can anyone recommend some roots reggae?
[5]. Live reggae recording recommendations
[6]. Who was Marcus Garvey?
[7]. Can you recommend some Dancehall?
[8]. Is there a newsgroup that caters to those of us who enjoy soca, zouk,
[9]. Books on Rastafarianism?
[10.] What are the different reggae styles?
[11.] CARIBANA FAQ
[12.] Can anyone give me some info on the rasta culture?
[13.] Could anyone out there suggest to me any albums which combine reggae and
      jazz?
[14.] Caribbean Clubs FAQ


        The Questions and Answers

[0]. Is there a Reggae Archives on the Internet?

    The Internet Reggae Archives are located at  monkfish.nosc.mil
(128.49.28.2). To access the archives, ftp to monkfish and login with username
anonymous, use your email userid and address as the password. After logging in,
change directory to pub/reggae.

    The files are arranged as follows:

audio        Sound sample files directory
faq        This file
pics        Pictures directory
Incoming    For uploading
catalogs    Record catalogs
lyrics        Song lyrics
radioshows
clubs
mailorder

The files can also be accessed via a mail server, to access the mailserver,
send a message to [e-mail] with a message body:

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    Be sure and specify the subdirectory with the file, for example to
receive the Spear.gif file, use: send pics/spear.gif as the message.

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    If you have any problems or anything to contribute, like radio shows in
your local area or pics, post to rec.music.reggae or mail me at
[e-mail]. Files may be uploaded to the archives by anonymous
ftp to monkfish in directory pub/reggae/Incoming.


[1]. Dub Recommendations

Ok, here's a FAQ if I ever saw one:

GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS!

I've been there a bit already - got some LKJ, Agustus Pablo,
Lee Perry, Upsetters, but I have yet to find the really mind
searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile.
I want loads of echo, pans and sounds like the universe is
being ripped apart at the seams in front of me. Skip the drum
machines unless they're very tastefully done, lay on the heavy
bass and crank up the volume, kick back and close your eyes...

Help me find it! My last try was ROIR's TOWERING DUB INFERNO
and only a couple of tracks get close to as heavy as I'd hoped.

I keep getting pointers to African Headcharge, but that stuff is
very steeply priced - is it worth it?

  - malcolm

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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>...but I have yet to find the really mind
>searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile.
>I want loads of echo, pans and sounds like the universe is
>being ripped apart at the seams in front of me


Two words: Mad Professor


>I keep getting pointers to African Headcharge, but that stuff is
>very steeply priced - is it worth it?

Yes.  The best stuff from their first four albums is out on two discs,
titles I can't remember (they'll be obvious, though, they have "volume 1"
and "volume 2" in the title).  Also the CD _Songs of Praise_ is excellent,
although it's not as twisted as the early stuff; it's more African in
an On-U sort of way than spaced out in an On-U sort of way.

You are also required to have much Prince Far I within easy reach at all times.

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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>Ok, here's a FAQ if I ever saw one:
>
>GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS!
>
>I've been there a bit already - got some LKJ, Agustus Pablo,
>Lee Perry, Upsetters, but I have yet to find the really mind
>searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile.

I had a Prince Fari LP in New Zealand which seems to fit the bill - had to
leave it with a friend as a parting gift since he was so in tune with
it. Sorry, can't recall the name now! (it had a track called "Plant Up"
which I was really into). Also try some Mad Professor albums.

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[e-mail] (Robert B France) writes:

>In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>>Ok, here's a FAQ if I ever saw one:
>>
>>GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS!
>>
>>I've been there a bit already - got some LKJ, Agustus Pablo,
>>Lee Perry, Upsetters, but I have yet to find the really mind
>>searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile.

For good spaced-out dub, try Dub Syndicate (On-U Sound).  They're hard
to find in the US - try the import or World Music section of your
local mega-store.

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[e-mail] (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS!

>Help me find it! My last try was ROIR's TOWERING DUB INFERNO
>and only a couple of tracks get close to as heavy as I'd hoped.

i liked TDI, but i can see what you mean... try any of the ON-U
releases like PLAYGROUP (jazzy dub) or PARTY SOUNDS 1, etc. they're
quite good. also, anything else Adrian Sherwood does by himself
seems to be great dub.

>I keep getting pointers to African Headcharge, but that stuff is
>very steeply priced - is it worth it?

in a word, yes. it's pretty steeply priced here, maybe not at Amoeba
in Berkeley. your best bet is to write ON-U directly for better
prices. this is what a friend of mine does. i'll send you the address
via email when i get home and look on one of my ON-U cds.

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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>Ok, here's a FAQ if I ever saw one:
>
>GIMME SOME DUB POINTERS!
>
>I've been there a bit already - got some LKJ, Agustus Pablo,
>Lee Perry, Upsetters, but I have yet to find the really mind
>searing spaced out heavy dub that I hear hints of once in awhile.
>I want loads of echo, pans and sounds like the universe is
>being ripped apart at the seams in front of me. Skip the drum
>machines unless they're very tastefully done, lay on the heavy
>bass and crank up the volume, kick back and close your eyes...
>
>Help me find it! My last try was ROIR's TOWERING DUB INFERNO
>and only a couple of tracks get close to as heavy as I'd hoped.
>
>I keep getting pointers to African Headcharge, but that stuff is
>very steeply priced - is it worth it?
>
>  - malcolm

WOW!! excellent start!!!! You might try some Mad Proffesor Psychedelic Dub.
Umm let me go look... well Iroy Crisis time (any Iroy rocks but dub..)
also try more Perry, Satan's Dub, The Upsetter and The Beat, Scratch Attack..
The best dub (in my opinion) comes from bootlegs, Steel Pulse does some crazy
stuff live: maybe you've heard versions of Roller Skates nana dub style.
There are alot of flip side dubins on Bob singles.
BTW how's African Headcharge coming out???
jafari
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Here are some things to look for from the discography in the back of
Jon Savage's _England's Dreaming: Anarchy, Sex Pistols, Punk Rock, and
Beyond_.  He also says that Steve Barrow is working on what should be
the definitive book on Reggae and Dub (looks like nothing available
yet).  (Most of this is Dub, since that's what I'm most interested in
hearing, I think.)

Aggrovators (mixed by King Tubby)
  Johnny in the Echo Chamber               1989   Atlantic
  Dub Justice                              1990   ATLP

Collections/Compilations
  The Harder They Come                     1972   Island       soundtrack
  King Tubby Meets the Upsetter at the
    Grass Roots of Dub                     1976   Fay Music
  Keep On Coming Through the Door                 Trojan       "talkover"
  U-Roy and Friends: With a Flick of My
    Musical Wrist                                 Trojan?      "talkover"
  20 Reggae Classics                       1987   Trojan CD
  Studio Kinda Cloudy                      1988   Trojan       Hudson prod.
  King Tubby's Special 1973-1976           1990   Trojan       30 tracks

Culture
  Two Sevens Clash                         1977   Joe Gibbs

Rupert Edwards
  Irie Feelings                            1990   Trojan CD    20 remixes

Keith Hudson
  Pick A Dub                               1975   Atra
  Torch of Freedom                         1976   Virgin ?
  Rasta Communication                      1978   Joint Records

Junior Mervin (mixed by Lee Perry)
  Police and Thieves                       1976   Island

Lee "Scratch" Perry ("The Upsetter")
  Super Ape                                1976   Island
  Lee Perry and Friends - Give Me Power    1988   Trojan
  The Upsetter Collection                  1988   Trojan
  The Upsetter Compact Set                 1988   Trojan

Prince Far-I
  Heavy Manners                            1976   Joe Gibbs

Revolutionaries
  Dub Sensation
  Bamba in Dub                             1977   Skynote
  Hordcore Dub                             1990   OMLP


The manufacturer of a lot of these records:

     Trojan Records
     12 Thayer Street
     London W1M 6AU

A distributor/shop which supposedly has or can get most or all of the
Trojan reissues:

     Shanachie Records US
     Dalebrook Park
     Hohokus, New Jersey  07423
     USA
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In article <[e-mail]> [e-mail] (Nubi Achebo) writes:
>From: [e-mail] (Nubi Achebo)
>Subject: Natty Dub Music
>Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:32:16 GMT
>Would anybody give me a list of some natty dub laden reggae music and
>musicians.  Also please include any mail order place you know to get these
>albums since I live in a tiny city where the selection is very poor.
>
>I,ll also like to have the address of "Mango" - a record producing and
>distribution company.
>
>Nubi Achebo.
>

Here's a list of 10 particularly fine dub albums by non-dub artists (in no
particular order):

1.    Black Uhuru - Dub Factor (Mango)
    Sly and Robbie team up with Paul 'Groucho' Smykle for a ferocious
dub album.  Almost like a heavy metal album in its intensity.

2.    Prince Fari -  Cry Tuff Dub Encounter chapter I (ROIR cassette,
Danceteria CD), II (Virgin/Caroline reissue) III (Daddy Kool) IV (Trojan).
    The voice Moses heard on the mountain must have been similar to that
of the late Prince Fari's.  His dub albums rumble and boom as well.
Especially fine is I where he hooks up with English dubmeister Adrian
Sherwood.

3.    UB40 - Present Arms in Dub (Virgin)
    Before UB40 sold its soul for mass pop-reggae stardom, they released
Present Arms, a great album.  In Dub is even better.  Distinguished by its
spare use of traditional dub effects (like echo), it combines a heavy
bassline with crisp drums and UB40's best asset - their horn section.

4.    Wailers - Tribute to Carly Barrett (Atra)
    Until Island relents in its pigheadedness and releases Dennis
Thompson's dub mixes of the Marley catalog, check the Wailers spotlight on
their late drummer.  Carlton Barrett, wiped from creation in 1987, had a
unique drum style which is mixed upfront on this dub of Horace Andy and
Winston Jarrett tracks.  Great supporting work from Tyrone Downie's organ
and Bobby Ellis's horns.

5.    Aswad - New Chapter of Dub (Mango)
    (Mikey) Dread at the Controls serving up a spacey dub of Aswad's
English import New Chapter LP.  Includes stellar horn work by Michael '
Bammie' Rose and Vin Gordon.

6.    Bunny Wailer - Dub D'sco Vol. I and II (Solomonic).
    Unlike his partners, Bob and Peter, Bunny has released two superb
dub albums.  Vol. I features his vocals mixed high and then pushed/pulled in
a wash of dub echo.  Vol. II is a more traditional dub album.

7.    Ras Michael and the Sons of Negus - Rastafari Dub (ROIR cassette,
Crocodisc CD).
    Nyabinghi dub.  Robbie Shakespeare's bass leads the way while the
akete, funde and repeater drums complement him against Earl 'Chinna' Smith's
flange guitar.  Any extremely rare dub album reissued featuring Peter Tosh
on clavinet!

8.    Treasure Isle Dub Vol. I and II (Treasure Isle).
    Classic rock steady and early reggae tracks given the dub
treatment; like John Holt's 'Ali Baba', Alton Ellis's 'Cry Tough' and the
Melodians 'Come on Little Girl'. A good companion to Heartbeat's Duke Reid's
Treasure Chest of '92.  Check several of Studio One's dub albums as well.

9.    Dr. Alimontado - Love Is (Keyman)
    Like Bunny Wailer's, this is more a vocalized dub album of tracks by
one of reggae's most underrated toasters.  A perfect example of how deejays
have followed U Roy's example in incorporating dub.

10.    Alpha and Omega - Watch and Pray (A & O, Greensleeves)
    Dub's new wave: borrowing a little from Jah Shaka and ON U sound's
African Headcharge, Alpha and Omega combine haunting female vocals, spacey
dub effects, bonecrushing bass and salutations to Jah for an ethereal mix.
Possibly an acquired taste.

Bonus:     Kings of Reggae featuring Chris Hinze (Keytone)
    More of an instrumental album.  Some cheezy flute player from
Holland (Hinze) goes down a yard and teams up with the best of Jamaica's
session men: Sly and Robbie, Mikey Chung, Sticky.  While the premise for
this sounds horrofic, the result is a masterpiece: Sly and Robbie rock hard,
the unknown female backups sound great and as a bonus Peter Tosh warbles on
a couple of tracks.  One more reason reggae music will suprise you every
time.
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  Probably the finest single dub album I own is a double LP on Trojan called
"King Tubby Special."  It consists, of course, of classic tracks dubbed up by
the King himself.  Kicks butt big time.
  Also, there is a Prince Far I CD available from Trojan called "Voice of
Thunder," and it's essential.
  Keep an eye out for the Bunny Lee reissues coming out on RAS these days.
There's a very nice U-Roy disc ("Rock with I", RASCD 3219), which features
U-Roy toasting over gutbusting dub tracks, and also a great collection of
instrumental tracks by the Aggrovators which isn't strictly dub but features
Bunny's dubwise production style.
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From: Robert Nelson ([e-mail]

Prince Fari has always been one of my all time favorites. His voice sounds
like he used to drink Drano :-). He chanted my all time favorite reggae
lyric, "The humble cow gives the most milk." I probably feel sadder about
his death than Marley's overall.

The Cry Tuff album that was produced by Adrian Sherwood was the first Cry
Tuff Dub Encounter. It came out in 1978 on the Hitrun label and features the
Arabs as the musicians. (In actuality I think the Arabs were really Dub
Syndicate).  ROIR has released this on cassette and Danceteria has the CD.
It's a great dub album, with lots of special effects. Lions roaring that
sort of thing; great for your answering machine message :-)

The Virgin/Caroline compilation called "Dubwize" has 4 unreleased singles/
versions & Cry Tuff Chap II. There are 8 songs listed for II. These Caroline
reissues were notorious for leaving various tracks from the original
albums off of the CD reissues. Does anyone out there have Cry Tuff II on
vinyl? Did they leave off anything?

Here's a Prince Fari discography: *Cd availability

Cry Tuff Dub Ch. 1 (Roir/Danceteria)*
Cry Tuff Dub Ch. 3 (Daddy Kool)
Cry Tuff Dub Ch. 4 (Trojan)
Dubwize (Virgin/Caroline)*
Voice of Thunder (Trojan)*
Umkhonto we Sizwe - Spear of the Nation (Wambesi)*
Musical Revue (ROIR/Danceteria)* - live with the Suns of Arka
Black Man Land (Virgin/Caroline)* - tracks from Message from the King &
                                    Livity
Under Heavy Manners (Joe Gibbs)
Psalms For I (Carib Gems) - Bible verses chanted over reggae beats
Jamaican Heroes (Trojan)
Free From Sin (Trojan)
Musical History (Trojan)

Here's some more I only know about, (if anyone has these and would like to
do a trade swap, please mail me)

Message from the King (Virgin)
Long Life (Virgin)
Livity (Pre)
Rockers in a Suitcase (Pre)

Fari also did stellar work with Sherwood's Singers and Players:

Golden Greats (ON U)*
War of Words (ON U)
Staggering Heights (ON U)
Plus there is a nice Prince Fari love song where he sings and a DJ toasts
over HIM on the ON U release Reggae Archives Vol 1.

If I've left anything out, please let us know.

Robert.

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[2]. Can anyone recommend some books on reggae?

1. Catch a Fire - The Life of Bob Marley. Timothy White. Holt, Rinehart and
   Winston. 1983

2. Reggae Bloodlines - In Search of the Music and Culture of Jamaica. Stephen
   Davis and Peter Simon. Heinemann Educational Books Ltd. 1977

3. Reggae International. Stephen Davis and Peter Simon. Rogner & Bernhard GMBH
   & Co. 1982

4. The Harder They Come - Michael Thelwell

5. "Bob Marley" by Stephen Davis, published by Schenkman Books, INC
   ISBN: 0-87047-045-0, 087047-044-2 (pbk)
   A good biography about Bob's life, mentions all the albums and a lot
   of concerts, Bob made. A must for the real Marley-fan.

6.  Derek Bishton     "Blackheart Man"
7.  Leonard Barrett     "The Rastafarians"
8.  Adrian Boot/
    Michael Thomas    "Jamaica: Babylon on a Thin Wire"
9.  Adrian Boot/
    Michael Thomas    "Jah Revenge: Jamaica Revisited"
10.  Howard Johnson/    "Reggae: Deep Roots Music
     Jim Pines
11.  Malika Lee Whitney/ "Bob Marley: Reggae King of the World
     Dermott Hussey
12.  Dick Hebdige    "Cut n Mix"
13.  Rebekah M. Mulvaney "Rastafari and Reggae: A Dictionary & Sourcebook"
14.  Joseph Owens    "Dread: The Rastafarians of Jamaica"

Magazines:
Reggae Report
The Beat

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[3]. What is "Dub" music anyway?

    Look at the B-sides of Jamaican 45s beginning with rock steady, and
you'll notice many of them say "Version". This is "dub", a simple instrumental
remix of the A-side that may also include a few scraps of the vocals. The
singers are "dubbed out", but in most other respects the version is identical
to the A-side. Begun as a test for sound levels during the record-mastering
process, version later became vogue. The Jamaican public developed an avid
taste for version, and the scat-singing sound-system deejays took to recording
their master-of-ceremonies raps over the hit-backing rhythms.

        "Reggae International", Davis and Simon
        Chapter 8, X-Ray Music

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[4]. Can anyone recommend some roots reggae?

    I always recommend the samplers, that way you can choose what sounds
interesting and branch out from there. I highly recommend the Greensleeves,
Heartbeat, RAS, and Mango samplers, although there are many others.

                        EZ Noh,        mike


From: [e-mail] (borja larrumbide)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: New Groups, Any ideas?

If you like Steel Pulse you will definitely enjoy Aswad. They both sound very
alike, especially in albums like Aswad(live, Hulet,...).Try to avoid its most
recent stuff and check first its old albums. If  you hear Bob Marley then you
should  check Peter Tosh(Wanted Dread  or Alive,...). Other  groups  I  would
recommend would be Black Uhuru, Alpha Blondy(It been considered to follow the
trends of Bob Marley. Although that's a matter of opinion). Another choice
could be Burning Spear(live in Paris, Mek We Dweet,...). There are many more
and the list too long. I hope this helps!

                      Long live reggae!

From: [e-mail] (Laurence Fiddick;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: recommendations

here goes:

if it's on studio one buy it. in particular you might look for burning
spear's 'studio one presents' and 'rocking time', the heptones' 'on top',
the carlton and the shoes' lp--generally you can't go wrong with studio
one.

not on studio one, look for:

augustus pablo 'original rockers'
augustus pablo 'king tubby meets rockers uptown'
augustus pablo 'east of the river nile'
culture 'two sevens clash'
culture 'harder than the rest'
culture 'cumbolo'
black uhuru 'red'
black uhuru 'showcase/guess who's coming to dinner'
linton kwesi johnson 'dread, beat an blood'
linton kwesi johnson 'making history'
dennis brown 'visions'
bob marley 'rasta revolution'
bob marley 'african herbsman'
count ossie and the mystic revelation of rastafari 'grounation'
burning spear 'marcus garvey'
burning spear 'social living'
hugh mundell 'africa must be free by 1983'
various 'wiser dread'

i'm sure others can add more to this list.

Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: recommendations

    No self-respecting reggae fan should be without a few Lee Perry
    albums (either ones that he's produced or recorded - or both)

    Best ones include...


    Heart of the Ark (Vols I and II)
    Megaton Dub (Vols I and II)
    Super Ape
    Return of the Super Ape
    Excaliburman
    George Faith - 'To be a Lover' (Lee Perry Produced)** highly
                                recommended
    Build the Ark    -|
    Open the Gate    -|--- All three are three-album boxed sets
    Upsetters    -|


    (There's lots more, but these are the ones that you should investigate
    first, especially the George Faith album. I do think, however, that
    this album is now deleted [at least on vinyl], so the only place you
    may come across it are in 2nd-hand record shops or record fares - but
    it's a classic album which you *must* try and listen to. I got my copy
    from a record fare a few years ago - for a paltry 3 pounds.)

From: [e-mail] (Robert Nelson)
Subject: Re: New Groups, Any ideas?

Here's a list of 10 albums that will give anyone a simple
introduction to reggae music. (These are all readily available from most
record stores/chains). I'll assume that you'll want to pick up most of the
Marley catalog, especially since most of the titles cost about $8 now on CD.


1. Burning Spear -  Marcus Garvey/Garvey's Ghost (on CD) (Mango label)
2. Bunny Wailer -  Blackheart Man (Mango Label)
3. Black Uhuru - Guess Who's Coming to Dinner (Heartbeat)
4. Peter Tosh - Legalize It (CBS)
5. Aswad - To the Top (Mango or Simba)
6. Steel Pulse - True Democracy (Elektra)
7. Eek a Mouse - Wa Do Dem (Shan. or Greensleeves)
8. Alpha Blondy - Jerusalem (Shan.)
9. Gregory Isaacs - Night Nurse (Mango)
10. Judy Mowatt - Black Woman (Shan.)

This only scratches the surface, each one of these
artists has many more killer titles all reggae lovers
should own.

Robert.

From: [e-mail] (Erik Domstad)

Culture-      'Culture in Culture'
Mighty Diamonds-  'The Real Enemy'
Black Uhuru-      'Anthem'
Bunny Wailer-     'Liberation'
Burning Spear-    'Resistance'
Israel Vibration- 'Praises'
Wailing Souls-    'Fire house rock'
Ini Kamoze-       'Pirate'
Ijahman-          'Haile I hymn'


  Erik

[e-mail] (Isaac Thompson) writes:

  What (reggae) life has taught me, I would like to share with you.--Haile
Selasie.  The following are reggae artists I think true, dyed-in-the-wool
reggae heads must have:

>Mutabaruka (Ja.--roots poetry, plenty of brain food)
>Linton Kwesi Johnson (Ja.--ditto)
>Luky Dube (South Africa)
>Evi Edna (Nigeria--female, terrific voice, great voice, down right rootsy!)
>Identity (US--group of West Indians)
>Cidre Negra (Brazil--def!)
>Sandee (Japan)

>Check them out.

From: [e-mail] (David Hoffman)

Couldn't let this one go without adding my essentials:

Junior Murvin - the record with "Police and Thieves"
Gregory Isaacs, esp. early releases
Sugar Minott
Black Uhuru - check out "Sinsemilla"
Judy Mowatt
June Lodge

just a few suggestions!

Dave

From: [e-mail] (Hans van der Linden)

Name for his style: IJahMan Levi's music.

Compare him?  It's said that Chris Blackwell decided for him to be THE
successor of Bob Marley ("sign me your publishings and I make you a
wealthy man").... yet IJahman did go his own way.
But of similar musical and lyric-wise level and similar sort of music/lyrics
I'd say: A lot of Pablo Moses' (esp. older: Revolutionary Dream and such)
work (also still around and hot), also Sugar Minott's work on studio One,
Junior Byles (Jordan), Lee Scratch Perry's Heart of the Ark collection,
Yabby You's One Love, One Heart (also GREAT), side A of Singers and
Players' Leaps and Bounds, Israel Vibration, Wiss, and such.

Albums and tapes I have, so I can tell about (not in specific order):
`Are We A Warrior?' 1979 (still Island:-) [title song esp. great (7:33min)]
`Haile I Hymn (chapter 1)' (ALL 4 NUMBERS PERFECT) (yet still Island)
        esp. numbers: `Jah Heavy Load' and `Jah Is No Secret' are PERFECT+
`Tell It To The Children' (again very great)
`Levi Inside Out' (very great again, incl. 2 love songs, and a new version of
        `Jah Heavy Load')        JMI 1100 (Tree Roots prod. 1989)
`Lilly Of My Valley' (lot of love songs, yet VERY good) JMI 500 (Tree R. '85)
`IJahman & Friends' (VERY VERY good, esp. most numbers:-) (some guests, like
        Black Uhuru and His Majesterian appear) JMI 900, Tree Roots '88
`Africa' (to bore you all...again ALL BRILLIANT, great blazing, as usual)
        JMI 400, Tree Roots '84
    Very recently (dedicated to 100th Anniversary of Haile Sellasie) my gf
    gave me the album:
`KingFari', I love side A, side B (love songs) I like.(JMI 1400 Tree Roots '92)
    (Oh yes, I recorded [from radio!] `Live in Paradiso '87, guess that will
    not be found worldwide though:-)

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[5]. Live reggae recording recommendations

From: [e-mail] ()
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

    Geof's favorite live discs-

    Black Uhuru  "Tear It Up- Live"  on Mango <-- An incredible release
        featuring my favorite BU lineup (Michael Rose, Ducky Simpson,
        Puma) with Sly and Robbie rhythm section.  Classic rockers
        A must have.
    Burning Spear  "Live in Paris '88"  on Slash/Blue Moon  <--- There's
        been talk of this album on the net before.  Whichever version
        you end up with is a killer one.
    Toots and the Maytals  "Live (at the Hammersmith Palace)"  <---  You
        want great crowd interaction?  Check out the 11 (?) minute
        "54-46 That's my Number"  These guys have got soul.  The
        must have recommendation is a given for all of these selections.    Peter Tosh  "Captured Live"  on ??? (this is all from the top of my head)
        <---  Killer.  Relatively easy to find.
    Bunny Wailer  "Live" on Solomonic  <---  I've only seen this on vinyl
        with a pretty low sound quality.  Includes stuff from
        "Blackheart Man" and "Rootsman Skankin'
        (sorry) and an "I'm the Toughest" cover.  Anyone seen this on
        disc?  It's definitely worth it.
    BMW "Live"  <---  The prototype live reggae album.

From: [e-mail]

Well I'm mostly roots myself, but just by chance I was listening to a "live"
dancehall record tonight- Charlie Chaplin's "Take Two." I know this might
not be the new NEW dancehall you're talking about, i.e. Ninjaman, Shabba, etc.
But Chaplin's the MAN and he's backed by Roots Radics here. I say "live" cause
it's live in the studio, but he's got plenty of people whistling and shouting.
"Take Two" is 1990 on RAS.
More good live stuff would of course be any of the Sunsplashes! I have
Eek-A-Mouse w/ Michigan and Smiley from the '84 Sunsplash and Yellowman at the
'83. They both slam but try to get the Eek-A-Mouse disc if you have to choose.
That's all I can think of for now...
ites,
Brad

From: [e-mail] (Gareth Owen)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

Misty In Roots - Live at the Counter Eurovision '78 (on People Unite)

Wonderful stuff

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From: [e-mail] (Dudley Gaman)

You probably have Marley's _Talkin' Blues_.  If not, you must get it.
Burning Spear's _Live in Paris_ is very good.  My favorite live reggae
album is _Gregory Issacs Live_ from the Reggae Greats collection.  It
was released 8 or 10 years ago, but I still listen to it when I need
a dose of Gregory at his best.

Dudley

From: [e-mail] (Robert Nelson)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

I've got a 2 album bootleg of Peter Tosh  called "Dealing with the
Shytstem".  With a wicked version of Babylon Queendom.

There are a couple of other Marley bootlegs in circulation as well:

The Lion's Domain
Wailing For the Last Time.

(I don't feel too bad about picking up bootlegs, since Island shortchanged
alot of the rarities on Songs For Freedom; dem maga dogs!)

Robert.

From: [e-mail] (mike pawka)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

    My favorite "live" CD is Mighty Diamonds "Live In Tokyo", although good
luck in finding it. It's a Japanese Import, I found it at Tower for $22.50 one
day, grabbed it and haven't seen a copy since. I think the performance is from
about 1980.


From: [e-mail] (Art Barstow)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

A few of my favorites that have not been mentioned:

o  Bob Marley and the Wailers: Babylon By Bus

o  Lucky Dube: Captured Live

o  Pato Banton:  I think it is 'American Revolution' or 'Reggae Revolution';
     it was recorded in San Fran. and has a good version of "Niceness"
     and "Don't Sniff ...".

Reply-To: [e-mail]

Well, once again to address real reggae, lovers rock and the dancehall, the 25th Anniversary Album from Alton Ellis is an all-time favorite live album.

From: [e-mail] (Hans van der Linden)
Subject: Re: Recommendations for LIVE reggae productions

Though most of my favourites have yet been mentioned, still missing is the
great:   Chalice - Live at Reggae Sunsplash 1982  (VSLP 8902, Vista Records)
Greetings, Hans
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[6]. Who was Marcus Garvey?

    Excerpted from "Reggae International", Stephen Davis and Peter Simon.

Ethiopianism includes the appreciation of Ethiopia's ancient
civilization as well as its role in the Bible. To blacks, Africa
(interchangeable with Ethiopia) became a glorious, Biblical home-
land equated with Zion. The recognition of African roots and the
desire for repatriation has been a central theme in New World
black religion before and since emancipation. Ethiopianism became
a "black religious reaction to pro-slavey propaganda."

Marcus Garvey's "Back to Africa" movement developed the spirit of
Ethiopianism to its fullest extent.

....since the white people have seen their God through white
spectacles, we have only now started out (late though it be) to
see our God through our own spectacles. Tbe God of Isaac and the
God of Jacob let him exist for the race that believe in the God
of Isaac and the God of Jacob. We Negroes believe in the God of
Ethiopia, the everlasting God--God the Son, God the Holy Ghost,
tbe one God of all ages. That is the God in whom we believe, but
we sball worship him througb the spectacles of Ethiopia.

A. J. Garvey, The Philosophy and Opinions of Marcus Garvey

Garvey's words planted the seeds for most "Black Cod" movements
in the US and Caribbean. Stressing the superiority of the ancient
Africans and the dignity of the black race, he inspired many
successful nationaiist movements and numerous African leaders
from Kenyatta to Nyerere.

Marcus Mosiah Garvey was born in St. Ann, Jamaica, in 1887,
descended from the fiercely proud Maroons. He founded the
newspaper The Negro World, which took as its motto his
nationalist cry,  "One God, One Aim, One Destiny." In 1917, he
founded UNIA (Universal Negro Improvement  Association) in
Harlem. Its aims were described in a speech delivered by Garvey
in 1924 at Madison Square Garden, New York:

The Universal Improvement Association represents the hopes and
aspirations of tbe awakened Negro. Our desire is for a place in
tbe world, not to disturb the tranquility of other men, but to
lay down our burden and rest our weary backs and feet by the
banks of the Niger and sing our songs and chant our hymns to the
God of Ethiopia.

Garvey's goal of repatriation was expressed in his famous slogan
"Africa for the Africans." His well-known Black Star Line
steamship company was established to trade and eventually carry
New World blacks to Africa. This prophet of African redemption
was not always successfull in his countless business ventures,
but by the 1920s Garvey was the most powerful leader among the
black masses in the United States.

In 1916, before he left for his US campaign, Garvey's farewell
address to Jamaicans included the words "Look to Africa for the
crowning of a Black king; he shall be the Redeemer."
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[7]. Can you recommend some Dancehall?

Profile's "Dancehall Stylee" Volumes I-III
VP's "Strictly The Best"  Volumes 1-8
Mango's "Ram Dancehall"

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| Scott Cairns               |   email: [e-mail]         |

My own current dancehall faves, if yuh interested:

"Gal Wine" - Chakademus / Pliers
"Wear Yuh Size" - Lt. Stitchie
"Hypocrites" - Michael Prophet / Daddy Freddy
"Ruling Cowboy" - Cocoa Tea
"Fresh Vegetable" - Tony Rebel
"Love Fever" - Cobra
"Bandaleros" - Pinchers
"Jump Up" - Admiral Bailey
"Talk Tough" - Bobo General / Culture Lindsay

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| DJ Scotty Ranks            |   email: [e-mail]         |

To show respect to the broad field of dancehall stylees I compiled a list
of `Big' DJ/dancehall names (over the years, I guess somewhat since 78).
These man and man have settled their names in many ppl's memories and have
made more than a couple of albums. I added one of my favourite albums for
each of them. I must have missed great ones by lots and must have selected
semi-optimal albums for many of them, so lets grow this list please. Also
a LOT of more temporary starts have made HOT ridims and lyrics, but including
them (Ashanti Waugh, Peter Culture, Scion Sashay Success, Tapper Zukie etc etc
etc) would make this list endless.

I roy - The General
U roy - Natty Rebel (++)
Papa/General Echo - 12" of Pleasure (man died too young, hear next album)
Clint Eastwoord & General Saint - Two Bad DJ
Michigan & Smiley -   Downpression
Yellowman & Fathead - I Cant take it (if live was a thing money coulda buy)
Yellowman & Home-T4 - Mr.Consular    (this one and previous are 12")
Barrington Levi - Here I Come
Mikey Dread - World War III
Sugar Minott - Time Longer Than Rope
Big Youth - Dread Locks Dread
Jah Thomas - Dance Hall Connection
Jah Woosh - Chalis blaze
Little John - True Confession
Max Romeo - Holding Out My Love To You (maybe not everyone finds this dancehall)
Winston Reedy - Crossover
Maxie Priest (slightly disco-ish) - You're Safe
Dr. Alimentado (not really dancehall)  - Best Dressed Chicken In Town *
Eek-A-Mouse (singing DJ) (some like it some hate it)) - Skidip
Dillinger - (SORT of, various experiments) I did like CB200 (ocassionally still)

With the very many names over the years samplers are especially useful for
selecting your taste here.  Nice samplers, i.e. `Super Fresh', `Sure Shot',
Very nice live samplers: a series called: `Live Dance Hall Session with ...',
where ... is `Aces International' or `Lees Unlimited' etc.

*) Sons of Thunder is better, yet less dancehall-ish

As I didn't purchase much dancehall the last few years, I missed the latest
great names. Also some stuff lost some actuality. All titles above are (for
me at least) timeless anyway. Oh yes, now we're on it. On MTV I saw Shabba,
Snow, and Shaggy on 3, 2, 1 in English chart as well. In Holland they must
also be in top 5, accompanied by Dr.Alban (reggae from sweden [or danmark?]).
BTW, wouldn't someone be able and willing to post a Jamaican chart on this
group sometimes? Even with some delay it might keep us informed of what is
hot in Jamaica much quicker.

OK, sorry for the length of this, Greetings, Hans (flashbacks will change my
musical diet for some days, and they are already doing so:-)


    Yes, it's one of the dusty, sleepy nyah mon making a dancehall
recommendation: Check out the ROIR/RAS CD, "Nice Up Dancee" featuring Sanchez,
Flourgon, Little Lenny, Johnny P., Tiger, Tippa Lee & Rappa Robert, Foxy Brown,
Little Kirk, Paul Blake & Bloodfire Posse, Super Glen, and Natural Beauty.

                        EZ Noh,        mike

Newsgroups: rec.music.reggae
Subject: Re: dancehall

In article <[e-mail]>, [e-mail] (Sherrett O Walker) writes:
|>
|> Can someone send me email on the newest and classic dancehall favorites???
|> Thanks in advance.
|>

    It's always difficult to determine what is the "latest" dancehall: it
always depends on how soon you were able to get to the local reggae store before
the last shipment done!!  Anyway:

-"Oh Carolina," Various Artists, King Jammy's version (Which is substantially
faster and different from the Signet (Sting Int'l) version.
-"Ghetto Vibes" Various Artists, also of Jammy's.  Features D. Brown, Courtney
Melody/Risto Benjy, Bounty Killer etc.
-Sound Boy Burial - Trouble, Tan Yah records
-Welfare/Good Enough - Blacka Ranks/ the late great Alton Black, Tan Yah.
-People - Gen. Degree, Penthouse
-Creator - Tony Rebel, Penthouse
_Operation Ardent = Buju, Penthouse
-You a lead/??? - Nardo/Galaxy P, Penthouse
-Love will lead you back - Wayne Wonder, Penthouse
-Excellence - Louie Culture, Madhouse

I will check on some new stuff that I just got in the last month and give you the
names.  Also let me know how far back you mean (1993 stuff, last month, etc..)

As for classic favorites - I'll just name some of mine:

"Here I come" - Dennis Brown
"Pumpkin Belly," "Ring the Alarm" - Tenor Saw
"Bam Bam" - Muma (then Sister) Nancy, Techniques (Winston Riley's - its on the
same rhythm as Tenor Saw's Ring the alarm and more recently Buju's "Do dem
sup'm".  Big Beat recently rereleased it with a *Phizattt* hip-hop remix as well
as the original.).
"Murderer," "Under me Sensi" - Barrington Levy
"Night Nurse," "Mr. Brown" - Gregory Isaacs
"Loving Pauper" - Dobby Dobson
"No,no,no" (You don't love me and I know) - Ken Boothe
"Greetings" "Level the vibes" - Half Pint
"Bobo Dread," "Leggo me hand" - Josey Wales
"Gunman Connection," "Suzy Q" - Nicodemus
Innumerable Yelloeman, especially with Fat head (e.g BAM BAM)
"Cry fi the Youth", "Mud up," "Sweet for my sweet," "Under Pressure," "Boops" -
Super Cat.
"Synthersizer voice" - Pampidoo
"Gi me punany," "Think me did done" (part II), "Big Belly Man" - Adm. Bailey
"Big Batty Gal," "Jump Spread out" - Flourgon
"Ram Dancehall," "Boombastic," "No wanga gut," "Mi lover mi lover" - Tiger
Any pre-Atlantic record of Lieutenant Stitchie After: "Father Beat me hot, Old
Confession, All nations, Wear yu size"
"Pretty Looks done" - Major Mackerel
"Cover Me" - Ninja Man/Tinga Stewart


Etc. etc...

Selector Dudu Black

From: [e-mail]
Subject: RE: dancehall

Here are a few more to add:

Zion in a vision - Garnet Silk
Love of a lifetime - ???
Love how de gal dem flex - Buju
If I ever fall in love again (cover) - Pinchers
Why so much gun and ammunition - Tony Rebel

They're not brand new, but are among some of the better '93 selection to come
out.

>As for classic favorites - I'll just name some of mine:
>
>
Some to add here would be:

Jump Up - Tiger
Babylon Boops - Lovindeer
Computer Burial - ???
Sorry - Foxy Brown
Love the life you live - Colonel Mite and Frighty
Gun Talk - Tony Rebel
Dolly My Baby (Original Version) - Super Cat
Cuff - Shelly Thunder
She a Trickster - ???
Love the Ghetto Youth - Admiral Bailey
Telephone Lover - J.C. Lodge
One Blood - ???

>Selector Dudu Black

Some Stuff That Came out in 92 that may be classic soon:

Ting-a-ling - Shabba
Boom Bye Bye - Buju
Murder She Wrote - Shaka Demus and Pliers
Lord, Me Can't Take it No More - General Degree
Granny - ??? (Same Version as that above)
Falling in Love All Over Again - Beres Hammond
Big Up Big Up - ???
Murderation - Capleton
Dem A Bleach - Nardo Ranks
Hot This Year - ???
Love is Guaranteed - Reggie Stepper

Richard Thomas

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[8]. Is there a newsgroup that caters to those of us who enjoy soca, zouk,
   salsa, or merengue?

Try rec.music.afro-latin

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[9]. Books on Rastafarianism?

The title says it all. I currently have Leonard E. Barrett's book. Anyone
know of other reputable titles?

From: "richard paul" <[e-mail]>

Well Steve... it's been a while since I have been up on the topic... ( moved
back to Toronto Canada after working in Jamaica in 1979-80), but you may
wish to check out Joseph Owens, DREAD: The Rastafarians of Jamaica.
Published by Sangsters (Jamaica) in 1979.

Rex Nettleford also has some interesting things to say in his book,
Caribbean Cultural Identity: The Case of Jamaica -
AN Essay in Cultural Dynamics (1978) Institute of Jamaica

I seem to recall a professor at York University in Toronto -
Carol Yawney  I beleive working on her PhD. dissertation on this very topic.
If you have access to interlibrary loan, you may be able to get hold of this
work.

From: [e-mail] (Brent Byer)

Steve Mcgowan wrote:
>
> .... I currently have Leonard E. Barrett's book.
> Anyone know of other reputable titles?

Check for:  "Rasta and Resistance" (From Marcus Garvey to Walter Rodney)
       By:  Horace Campbell
Publisher:  Africa World Press, Inc.
            PO Box 1892
            Trenton, NJ 08607
              Phone: [phone]
ISBN: 0-86543-035-7  (paper, 234 pg, $12.)  c1987;  3rd printing, 1990

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From the back cover:

  "Rasta and Resistance" is a study of the Rastafarian Movement in
  all its manifestations, from its evolution in the hills of Jamaica
  to its present manifestations in the streets of Birmingham and
  the Shashamane Settlement of Ethiopia.  It traces the cultural,
  political and spiritual sources of this movement of resistance,
  highlighting the quest for change among an oppressed people.
  This book serves to break the intellectual traditions which
  placed the stamp of millenarianism on Rasta.

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From close of Chapter 3:

"The symbols of the flag, the lion, the drum, the chalice, the locks,
 and the distinctive language were reflections of a style of resistance.
 The Rasta were neither crazy nor millenarian, for they were part of the
 sufferers who were making their own protest against the sickness of
 the colonial society.
   ....
 The Dreadlocks of the hills were making their imprint on the consciousness
 of the poor and it is to the evolution of the movement which we now turn.
 The Rastafari were creating the musical forms to strengthen the people
 to meet the violence and thuggery of neo-colonialism."

>Dear fellow internet_er,
>       I am an anthropology student in Fredericton, Canada and I am
>trying to obtain information about Rastafarianism. I would like to know
>if this movement is a millinerian movement or if millinerian is just a
>generalized title of the movement. I would appreciate any comments or
>information pertaining to this debate.

Check out the books....

AUTHOR: Barrett Leonard Emanuel
TITLE: The Rastafarians the dreadlocks of Jamaica
IMPRINT: Kingston, Jamaica Sangster's Book Stores Ltd London Heinemann
          Educational 1977
PHYSICAL  DESCRIPTION: ill
SUBJECT: Ras Tafari movement History
CLASSMARK: Theology AF 430 BAR


and....


AUTHOR: Cashmore  Ernest
TITLE: Rastaman the Rastafarian movement in England
IMPRINT: London Allen & Unwin 1979
SUBJECT: Ras Tafari movement England * West Indians England
CLASSMARK: Theology AF430 CAS * Adam Smith Lib 2 copies


The first book goes into this subject in reasonable depth, and also gives
valuable pointers to other sources. I've just started reading the second, so no
great comments to give for that particular one...


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